(21:33) Tells us of the 20th century scientific fact known as "the Orbits for the Sun and the Moon".

Pikthall [al-Anbiya' 21:33] And He it is Who created the night and the day">


 

(21:33) Tells us of the 20th century scientific fact known as "the Orbits for the Sun and the Moon".

Pikthall [al-Anbiya' 21:33] And He it is Who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. They float, each in an orbit.

Shakir [al-Anbiya' 21:33] And He it is Who created the night and the day and the sun and the moon; all (orbs) travel along swiftly in their celestial spheres.

YusufAli [al-Anbiya' 21:33] It is He Who created the Night and the Day, and the sun and the moon: all (the celestial bodies) swim along, each in its rounded course.

Let have a look on these four words: They float, each in an orbit

Everyone, each one.

in

Way, path, ship, sphere, orbit (modern meaning)

hover, swim

The Words Folk and Falak :

In the whole Quran the word folk mentioned 25 time. In 23 time it was meaning a ship:

2.164 7.64 10.22 10.37 11.37 11.38 14.32 16.14 17.66 22.65 23.22 23.27 23.28 26.119 29.65 30.46 31.31 35.12 36.41 37.140 40.80 43.12 45.12

In 2 places only the word interpreted as way and written in different Tashkil as falak , which I doubt it was the real meaning for it: 21.33 36.40

The word falak (sphere) is different than folk (ship) in the Tashkil only. It had the same structure.

Fa' (F) , Lam (L) , Kaf (K) .

The different is only in the way we put the Tashkil on the word. The word falak (sphere) had fatha on the Fa' , and on the Lam . The word folk (ship) had dhama on the Fa' .

The two words mean the same, both of them mean SHIP.

In that early days, Arabs thought that the sun and the moon moving in a ship at the space. Or as the Quran says: swim in the space. The most suitable noun for the verb swim is ship. Since the ship swim in the sea, the sun and the moon swim in it is ship in the space.

This is not a new theory, look back to the Egyptian methodology about the sun boat.

Lets have a look at the relationship between the noun and the verb

The meaning of is swimming. The meaning of is way, path, ship, sphere, orbit. To read the word in it is context we should read it as ship, so it could swim. We should not forgot "in" it mean that the sun and the moon swim in the ship.

This is a similar verse to 21.33

YusufAli [36.40] It is not permitted to the Sun to catch up the Moon nor can the Night outstrip the Day: each (just) swims along in (its own) orbit (according to Law).

If you do not agree with me. So lets bring another issue.

YusufAli [36.38] And the Sun runs his course for a period determined for him: that is the decree of (Him) the exalted in Might the All-Knowing.

Pickthall [36.38] And the sun runneth on unto a resting place for him. That is the measuring of the Mighty, the Wise.

I'll use Pikthall translation, because Yusuf Ali tried to escape from this problem by going further than the original text. Pickthall translation is the more closer to the original text.

Did the sun run?! It is run around itself only!! But never run in an orbit?! The earth is the one who run around the sun in an orbit, not vice versa?!

Ancient people thought that the sun and the moon running around the earth. They never thought that the earth is circled. So they thought that the sun came from a place in the sunrise and go to it is resting place at sunset.

Did the sun have a rest?! Never? This is what is the science said. The sun never hide or go to a rest place. I'll not interpret this verse, I'll let Mohammed himself interpret it:

Bukhari 4.421

Narrated Abu Dhar:

The Prophet asked me at sunset, "Do you know where the sun goes (at the time of sunset)?" I replied, "Allah and His Apostle know better." He said, "It goes (i.e. travels) till it prostrates Itself underneath the Throne and takes the permission to rise again, and it is permitted and then (a time will come when) it will be about to prostrate itself but its prostration will not be accepted, and it will ask permission to go on its course but it will not be permitted, but it will be ordered to return whence it has come and so it will rise in the west. And that is the interpretation of the Statement of Allah: "And the sun Runs its fixed course For a term (decreed). that is The Decree of (Allah) The Exalted in Might, The All-Knowing." (36.38)

It is clear that Mohammed thought that the sun in this verse go to the throne of Allah!! And asked him for the permission to raise again?!

We know that the sun never set. Because when it is sunset in our area it is raising in another place. But Mohammed never thought about this, because he like other in his time thought that the sun go to a rest place.

To cut the argument about the word Mustaqarr and if it mean a place of rest or not. Let have a look on Yusuf Ali commentary. Since he was trying to avoid this problem.

3983. Mustaqarr may mean: (1) a limit of time, a period determined, as in vi. 67, or (2) a place of rest or quiescence; or (3) a dwelling place, as in ii. 36. 1 think the first meaning is best applicable here; but some Commentators take the second meaning. In that case the simile would be that of the sun running a race while he is visible to us, and taking a rest during the night to prepare himself to renew his race the following day. His stay with the antipodes appears to us as his period of rest.

So we see that even Yusuf Ali, could not do anything to fix this problem.

In another hand there is a problem also with the moon.

YusufAli [36.39] And the Moon We have measured for her mansions (to traverse) till she returns like the old (and withered) lower part of date-stalk.

The word manazl mean places, houses, residences. The primitive image of the Quran says: that the moon had a places she came to every night. People will argue with this saying it is a symbol to the shapes of the moon. Yes, it talk about these shapes, but if the moon was full in the Arabia it could be hilal in another place?! So it had two shapes or it is in two places at the same time.

It is clear that the Quran imagination on the movement of the sun and the moon is not a circled movement in an orbit. Sura 18.86/90 tell us that Quran think that the sun had a place to set in at the sunset and a place to raise from at the sunrise.

YusufAli [18.86] Until when he reached the setting of the sun He found it set in a spring of murky water: …

Pickthall [18.86] Till, when he reached the setting place of the sun, he found it setting in a muddy spring, …

YusufAli [18.90] Until when he came to the rising of the sun he found it rising on a people for whom We had provided no covering protection against the sun.

Pickthall [18.90] Till, when he reached the rising place of the sun, he found it rising on a people for whom We had appointed no helper therefrom.

We see that Pickthall in the both verses added "place" next to setting and rising. YusufAli tried to skip this problem as usual.

Dr. Makhloof (the ex-president of the Azhar university) tried so in his book "Meaning of Quran", to escape from the same problem like Yusuf Ali. Dr. Makhloof comment on 18-86 spring of murky water is:

Dhul-Qarnin saw the sun set in a murky spring, but this is was in his eyes, because it is not like this truley.

This story is said by Allah, not by a human. So Allah should say what he see, not what Dhul-Qarnin see, since he is the talker. Actually the verb mean "he found it", a statement mean it was like this.